Oobie's Blog

16 Oct 2020

Goertz Daler Variety 5: 1716 Publica Fide - Long Serif

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The search for Goertz daler varieties persists . . . this time the discovery is on the 1716 Publica Fide, or Public Trust, design. When searching the web for any fellow Goertz variety hunters, I was surprised to find one Swedish website article covering several discovered varieties, mostly on the Publica Fide piece. The website is in Swedish, so it was difficult for me to understand the words, but thankfully, images were included. None of the varieties that the individual found were like ones that I have found, but it was interesting to see another individual's take on the search for them.

The variety occurs on the reverse, which is rather plain compared to later years. The reverse, exactly like that of the Cronan design, features the stated denomination in capital letters, "I. DALER S.M." It is peculiar that the reverse designs for the Cronan and Publica Fide pieces are the only designs to place a period after the letter "M." S.M., standing for silvermynt, is on the reverse of all Goertz dalers, but all pieces minted after 1716 do not have the proper punctuation for the abbreviated name. That is not the variety; I just thought it was a neat fact to bring up, as I just realized it.

The variety itself is rather small, but it still plays a role in displaying a new die. The letter "E" in the middle of the word "DALER" typically has small serifs at the top and bottom to the left of the letter (it is easier to look at the images to know what I am talking about). However, the new variety displays a rather long seraph on the bottom of the "E," with a serif roughly half the size at the top. Typical pieces usually have seraphs of the same length, taking up very little space. I decided on the name "Long Serif" for the new variety, but I will not give a name for what I consider a typical variety yet, as there is a possibility for newfound varieties in such considered pieces. The serifs on other letters seem to be no more or less than other pieces, so the long serif on the "E" is the only contributing factor to the variety.

The Long Serif variety contributes to the growing list of dies for the 1716 Publica Fide piece, as the individual that has researched the pieces has a rather large list of obverse varieties. Due to that individual's dedication to the design's obverse varieties, I feel I would be infringing on their work if I began studying the same features as well. Besides, the author has found so many different design changes between dies that I doubt I could add to their work without redundancy. Thank you for reading, and I hope you enjoyed reading about my continued journey. Stay safe out there.

Gabe, a.k.a. Oobie

*Note: I do not own these images or coins.


It's Mokie

Level 6

Very interesting and very esoteric, thanks for sharing your niche in our great hobby.


Level 5

I love this design, I wish I came across these sooner! Cheers, NM


Level 6

You are a Goertz Daler VAM man. Thanks great blog.

I. R. Bama

Level 5

An interesting specialization!

Maybe these dies were prepared by a different die-sinker. Like the different serif varieties for the 1855 large cents. I personally prefer the look of the "short" serif.


Level 6

Nice research and interesting blog.


Level 5

Goertz daler's are really interesting. Great blog on varieties for this. Keep up the good work and post more on these.


Level 5

There has been more than one occasion that I had to pass on something I wanted but was unwilling to pay what the seller wanted. I will not lie and say always, but many times if you are careful and patient, sooner or later you can obtain what your looking for without spending an arm and a leg. Heck, look at me, I only had to spend a leg! lol. Great Blog Oobie! Later!


Level 4

Amazing blogs Gabe!


Level 7

Another interesting blog on these coins. I collect tokens from about the same periods. I go from the 1700's to 1811. There tokens from Britian. One is up for auction now but way out of my range. That's why I love The history and research you did. I respect that. Everyday searching here and there just like you. Do not give up on your journey. Don't listen to anyone who says you can't do it. I can and did. So can you. Thanks

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