Oobie's Blog

16 Oct 2020

Goertz Daler Variety 6: 1716 Publica Fide - The Reengraved Die

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Upon reviewing 1716 Publica Fide pieces for my previous blog, I found another very neat and peculiar reverse variety. If you have not read my previous blog, I strongly encourage you to read it because I am going to use information from its body to draw conclusions in this blog.

I am not sure if I can call it a variety, as I am not 100% certain that I am correct on my observations. The piece in question is from the Eric P. Newman collection and was auctioned off by Heritage Auctions. The piece is a very high grade, so the details are untouched by circulation, allowing one to study the piece without worrying about corrosion, wear, or other circulation marks. The reverse, as described in the previous blog, depicts the words "I. DALER S.M.", standing for one daler silvermynt. When observing the reverse, one will notice that the letters I, E, and R, all have an odd, almost doubled, look to them. The letter L also has a very slight oddity, but it is not as prevalent as the other letters. I was comparing the reverse to the Long Serif variety I had found and saw several similarities between the letters that looked, how shall I say, 'cleaner' than the aforementioned. The letters of the Long Serif variety are close to level with each other, whereas the variety in question has letters that are slightly tilted. The doubled look, along with the slight tilt to some of the letters, leads me to believe that the die used to strike the reverse of Mr. Newman's Goertz daler was a reengraved Long Serif die. However, my belief is not based on an extrapolation from just that information. The "S.M." portion of the stated denomination appear to have been unaltered. When compared to the "S.M." of the Long Serif variety, the letters are the same, with placement being the same as well. One might throw away that observation without knowledge of the minting process during that time. You see, the dies were not made with the precise machines like those used in the 19th, 20th, and now 21st centuries. Dies were hand-engraved, so of course, they are bound to have differences after each engraving. The likelihood of one die possessing the exact same qualities of another is so unlikely that it is almost impossible. Therefore, with the doubled look on the I, E, R, and L, coupled with the identical "S.M.", I conclude that the newly discovered variety is from the same die that produced the Long Serif variety, just reengraved. It is not surprising that the Swedish mint would simply reengrave the die instead of replacing it due to what was going on during that time. Precious metals and finances were running extremely low in the Swedish empire because of the Great Northern War. The Swedes had put everything they had into the war, so it is not surprising that they would do everything they could to save resources. The Goertz dalers themselves were an attempt to save precious metals and fund the war.

Now that I have written everything out and expressed my thoughts, I am almost entirely certain that my conclusion is correct. I would like to hear your opinion on my stance to see if you think the same or different. If you think I am incorrect, please elaborate so that I can understand your viewpoint. I did not think my journey would lead me to here, but I am not surprised that it did. Thank you for reading, and I sincerely hope you enjoyed. Stay safe out there.

Gabe, a.k.a. Oobie

*Note: I do not own these images or coins.


It's Mokie

Level 6

That is interesting, you are amassing quite a collection with a Newman coin to make it extra special.


Level 5

Never heard of these coins... Nice blog! I appreciate the info! Cheers, NM.


Level 6

Well done..Newman is the guy. Thanks


Level 7

Another good job. I'm learning more about your coins than mine!!

Looks like die erosion to me, either way, it seems like it is the "missing" link between the short and long serif varieties. The die erosion may have forced the die sinkers to re-engrave.


Level 6

Your studying of these dalers will make you an expert.


Level 5

Very nice blog again. Your in a another level and league than me. Awesome work on looking at these.


Level 5

That assumption makes sense. I can see the day that you will be the worlds expert on this subject matter. Keep it up, Later!

I. R. Bama

Level 5

You sir are a pioneer!


Level 4

Amazing blog Oobie! Didn’t know anything about these coins before

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