Oobie's Blog

18 Oct 2020

Goertz Daler Variety 7: 1715 Cronan - Extra Jewels

Young Numismatists Exchange | Oobie

Yet another variety has been found, ironically on another Eric P. Newman piece. I finally finished a large project I had been working on, so I have more time to dedicate to my search. I am still very excited about the previous variety I found, and I plan on contacting individuals with more knowledge than I possess to prove my conclusion correct or incorrect. For now, I am going to continue my search.

The new variety occurs on the 1715 Cronan, or Crown, Goertz daler, specifically on the obverse. The Swedish crown is the focal point of the design, with the date residing below. The crown is decorated by numerous jewels, which is where the variety takes place. On the typical (or more common) 1715 Goertz daler, there are five, six, three, six, and five jewels on each "limb" of the crown, respectively. On the new variety, there are seven (questionably eight), six, three, six, and six jewels on each limb, respectively. Keep in mind, I am counting the jewels that are prominent, not those that are under other decorations on the crown. The extra jewels occur only on the outer limbs of the crown, so the inner limbs match the common design. Other design features of the variety's crown match that of the common design.

The individual that I spoke of in previous blogs has noticed this variety before and named the variety the "Chubby Crown," so I assume the author did not take notice to the difference in the number of jewels. When writing about the 1715 pieces, the author mentioned that forgery was an issue with the piece, so it can be concluded that the change was made to combat forgery. The author also mentions that the counterfeit coins are higher value than genuine coins of the era. With the unpopularity of the Goertz dalers in Sweden during the time they were produced, it is surprising to me that the pieces would have issues with counterfeiting. Translating the article and fully understanding what the author wrote is difficult, as it is in Swedish. I will put the link to the article below if you wish to see the work I am mentioning.

I am somewhat reluctant to name the variety since the individual has already attributed it, even if it is for different reasons. I feel I would be stepping over that individual's work if I made it solely my own discovery, though I did not see the author's work on this specific variety until after I had started writing this blog. Nonetheless, it is still interesting to observe the differences and learn from the other author's perspective in comparison to my own. As usual, thank you for reading, and I hope you enjoyed and learned a little along the way. Stay safe out there.

Gabe, a.k.a. Oobie

*Note: I do not own the images or coins.

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Level 4

Very interesting. Why the Goertz Daler though?


Level 5

Really a cool blog. You should get credit for it.

Long Beard

Level 5

I am somewhat surprised that the values of counterfeits are higher than genuine issues. Like yourself, I thought the same thing as to why bother?

It's Mokie

Level 6

Great Job Oobie, you are doing what this hobby does best, make you want to seek every bit of information about the coins you love. You are a true Numismatist.


Level 6

Well done. Isn't the study of varieties amazing? So much to learn. Thanks for sharing your research with us.


Level 6

Great research1 Thanks for sharing these interesting coins ; )


Level 7

Great job. You stuck with it and.we learned on the way. It's a great feeling to complete something you have been working on. I'm glad you kept with it. My set on the web I donated the set to the yns. It's in the third paragraph. Why. ? So they can see if I can do it they can. You did the same thing. You showed people to stick with it. Very inspirational. Good luck. Thanks for the research and your work.


Level 5

Nice work Gabe! I cant believe how invested you are in this! Good luck! Cheers, NM

The "chubby crown" seems fitting. Do you know how many die sinkers were at the Swedish mint at this time?


Level 5

I love the look of these varieties. Still don't understand them, but they sure are Beautiful examples. As always, I am pleased to learn more about coins and areas I have no knowledge of. Thanks for the additional insight. Later!


Level 5

These varieties are quite interesting. With early coins, I think its more common than modern issues? These coins are really nice. The jewels and extra jewels are certainly interesting.

I. R. Bama

Level 5

This is getting extensive! Is there going to be a book about it you are writing?

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