Oobie's Blog

02 Dec 2020

Goertz Daler Variety 8: 1718 Saturnus - Weak Reverse

Young Numismatists Exchange | Oobie

An eighth variety has been found! I apologize for my inactivity - balancing this year's schoolwork and my personal life is a difficult task. I decided to take a full college course load along with a couple normal high school classes, so the work has been quite strenuous. I have also been working diligently on a piece that holds a special place with me; I am hoping to get it published when I complete it. Nonetheless, I am back to looking for varieties.

This variety appears on the 1718 Saturnus Goertz daler, notably the reverse. On the reverse of the Saturnus daler, the stated value of "I DALER S.M" is in the middle of an ornamental cartouche. At the zenith of the cartouche is a five-petal flower, and at the sides and bottom of the cartouche are tree branches with several leaves. I first found the variety by analyzing the branches at the sides of the daler. On one daler, the leaves were very full and connected to the branch, whereas on the other, the leaves were weak and disconnected from the branch. The latter mentioned daler also has more precise lines on most of the design features on the reverse, so most of the details are not as bold as the former daler. I thought about naming the weaker daler "Skimpy Tree" due to the weakness of the side branches, but I also noticed that the stated value varies as well. The weaker daler's stated value has a very curvy top on the letter E, and the bowl of the letter R is very small compared to the other daler. With that being said, the variety has several notable features. I am having trouble coming up with a name for it, but I think I will call it the "Weak Reverse" for now. I also found a variety on the obverse of the coin regarding the date, but I have decided to save the date varieties for a separate, much longer blog, as there are several differences in date designs.

I have been debating whether to post this, but I think those who have supported my writing deserve to know. I spent several hours working on a piece a few months ago that described the history of the Goertz daler, which I had originally planned to post here as a blog. I had read an article in The Numismatist by author Eric Brothers that inspired me to reach out to him and ask for advice about being published (ever since I started writing about numismatics, being published in The Numismatist has been a huge goal of mine). The thought of being published seemed very far-fetched, but after many hard hours of work and several weeks of emails, I finally finished the piece and pitched it to the editors. With the help and inspiration of Mr. Brothers, as well as a few other key individuals in my life, I was accepted for publishing in the February 2021 issue of The Numismatist. I have been refraining from posting this because I did not want to be viewed as boastful, but as I said before, I feel I owe it to those who have supported me, as you were the first to inspire me to do more and fly higher. I cannot thank you enough for sticking with me, and I hope you enjoyed reading. If you have any questions regarding the Goertz dalers, please feel free to message me or comment at any point in time. Again, I apologize for my inactivity. I hope you all had a wonderful Thanksgiving, and if I do not post anything else before Christmas, though I do plan on finding more varieties, I wish you a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.

-Gabe, a. k. a. Oobie



Level 6

Keep up the good work and congratulations!


Level 5

I enjoy your blogs, I have learned to appreciate a coin and varieties that I have never seen in person. At my age with the coins I need to finish on projects I've already started, I will probably never have the pleasure of owning one, so I can admire & appreciate them through your efforts. Seeing these wonderful coins through your eyes & with your passion is awesome! I have said this before, you've opened up a new world for me with these coins, for that I thank you. Nuff Said.


Level 6

Thanks for this great blog. Well done on the article. Great, great job. I look forward to it. Thanks.

Long Beard

Level 5

Another well written piece. Finding the time to write with so many other things going on proves challenging, if not out right difficult. Yet you manage well. Anxiously awaiting that piece.


Level 7

You have it right. School work is important. The coins will always be here.. I enjoyed the blog . Good work. . You have the right balance. Keep it going!!


Level 5

Looking forward to the numismatist ! These Dalers are amazing. Want to start looking at the myself ! Really interesting area. Thanks for posting again.

Congrats! That is an incredible accomplishment. I myself have been working on a piece with barber dime varieties that I would like to pitch. Can't wait to see it!


Level 6

Good work in the study of coins. Also, school work.


Level 5

Amazing achievement my friend! I hope to follow in your footsteps in that regard. Ill will keep any eye out for that article in feb. Amazing coin as well! Cheers, NM

I. R. Bama

Level 5

Hey that isn't boastful, it is an achievement of great magnitude and you should be rightfully proud! Thanks for this blog

walking liberty

Level 4



Level 5

Congratulations, that is a huge achievement! As a matter of fact just a week ago I began working on a article that I hope to submit for the Numismatist. I guess I am not the only YN attempting it! I'm looking forward to reading your article in February, until then stay safe

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